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SABBATH 1-1-22

Presented on the first Sabbath service, 1-1-22

The TESTIMONY of JESUS


continued 1/1/2022


Things that are said by people who misconstrue God’s long mercy..


Some answers given by zoom participants…


1) cannot stop sinning and sinners will be forgiven all the time, Lasciviousness;


2) Changed in the clouds;


3) Can be saved without studying;


4) Grace abound where sin abounds;


5) It’s okay to sin once in a while in our probation;


6) Want’s to life but rejects the breath of life;


7) Jesus is the minister of sin;


8) Death of Christ is always sufficient to forgive...

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Let’s review the question…


GIVE 2 examples of what is told by people the result of God’s long suffering (patience)


so, these people do not get what God wants to give

so the Will of God not received…

and those who do not follow the will of God do not go to heaven

they desire and wants to heaven, and since God is patience HE

and God is patience (This is POSITIVE from God’s part)

is because there is NOT YET what is expected from God

(i do not meet the requirements of God - this is NEGATIVE)


Is GOD full of patience? YES


Does GOD HAS to be patience? NO


THE FACT THAT HE HAS TO…meaning there is a 50% chance this is something NOT GOOD!


So when GOD MUST BE patient, meaning?


GOD is patient?

GOD has to be patient? NO

God does not need to be patient

so if God has to be patient?


there is 50% chance GOD possibly is NOT GOOD


Why is GOD long suffering, when HE DOES NOT HAVE TO?


the fact that God is long suffering

GOD has to face a situation HE does not want to face…


BE IN A POSITION THAT OTHERWISE I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN

THIS IS BECAUSE OF LONG SUFFERING!


This is what God has to engage in…DEAL WITH, PUT UP, TOLERATE…because we do not meet what HE wants us to be!


WHY WE DO NOT NEED BE LONG SUFFERING

BECAUSE WE CAN B E IN A POSITION WEHRE GOD DOES NOT HAVE TO SHOW LONG SUFFERING

SIN IS THE RESULT OF WHY GOD HAS TO BE LONG SUFFERING!

long suffering is the result of THE negative attribute of what men have done (sin)


without sin, there needs to NOT be expression of the long suffering of God!


TO WAIT is an ACT OF PATIENCE


LONG SUFFERING


is because what needs to happen is NOT YET SEEN

or EXPRESSED


TO HAVE WHAT HAS TO BE PRESENT


GOD IS PATIENT

GOD DOES NOT NEED TO BE PATIENT

BUT BECAUSE OF LOVE (HE WANTS TO LIFE WITH MEN)

HE IS WILLING TO PATIENTLY WAIT (LONG SUFFERING)


GOD has to be just (not forced)


“has”

means he IS just

not needs to be just


WHY GOD IS LONG SUFFERING AND SO LONG BEFORE DESTRYOING SATAN?


BECAUSE GOD IS PATIENTLY WAITING FOR

PEOPLE WHO WILL VINDICATE HIS CHARACTER!


PATRIARCH & PROPHETS (PARA NABI DAN BAPA, ALFA OMEGA JILID 1)

IS THE BOOK WHY GOD PERMITS SIN..


Why the power to create is the same power to redeem?


because it is the same LOVE, but why?

because its the same source?


The answer,


DOES GOD SAVE BY USING THE “WRENCH” OF HEAVEN?


GOD creates by his WORD

and when HE saves? by HIS WORD also…


why should it be different?

Before man becomes man? was it a man before becoming man? NO!


There was no Adam before Adam was made Adam!


NO ONE is good!


ALL HAVE sinned!

God imparts (shared) forever his…


those who were saved from non saved

was there anything good before being saved?

CREATION IS FROM NOTHING TO SOMETHING

REDEMPTION IS THE SAME CONCEPT


FROM NO GOOD IN US TO SOMETHING GOOD IN US!

FROM NOTHING TO SOMETHING!


THERE IS DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY THAT IS DIFFERENT

BECAUSE TO REDEEM FROM SINNER TO BE NON-SINNER

DEPENDS ON MAN’S ACCEPTANCE TO BELIEVE

AND THIS IS WHERE THERE IS “LONG PATIENCE”


GODS ABILITY TO SAVE IS ALWAYS THE SAME

THE PROBLEM IS THAT MEN DO NOT BELIEVE IN THIS ABILITY(POWER)

SO THE WEAKEST LINK IS ON THE HUMAN FACTOR!

HUMAN FACTOR IS INFLUENCED BY HAVING SINNED!

IF GOD IS ALWAYS LONG SUFFERING

WHY THERE IS A TIME GOD DOES NOT HAVE TO MANIFEST HIS LONG SUFFERING?


GOD EXPRESSED HIS LONG SUFFERING SO THAT WE MAY

REALIZE OUR CONDITION AND DEPEND WHOLLY ON HIS STRENGTH

THAT HE NEED NOT HAVE TO EXPRESS HIS LONG SUFFERING

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