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DBS 8_17_2021

Reviewed John 10:29 in connection to the next verse John 3 : 16


John 10 : 29, My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


Father gave “me”

My Father which gave them me (KJ version)

My Father GAVE ME to them (non-KJ version)

Both versions are of the same meaning!


Converted from “gave them me” to “gave me to them” to help connect to the next verse, John 3 : 16, so that it cannot be connected to any other given verses!


Between Father and Me, there is “gave”


what was given? …..”me”


what was received by the world?


what was received by the world that was given from the Son?


The Son is given to the the world (them) so the world receives him!


Setelah “baca” John 3 : 16, Terima pemberian Bapa, menerima apa?, yang paling tepat ialah Anak! Ini untuk berdisiplin langkah demi langkah!


The world (them) receives me, and the world posses everlasting life contingent to meeting the requirements; and having NOT had prior to meeting the requirement means they did not have it prior to that; they just received it from whom?


What i know so far, it is the Son who was given, and no one has been given eternal life! so where is the eternal life from?


before having met requirements - did not have eternal life

having met the requirements - has eternal life;

so what can I conclude? eternal life is the same as only begotten Son


why there can be no other conclusion? is there any other conclusion? Yes, there is…

but why not consider other conclusions? cannot! why not?


because there are other possible conclusion…


option 1, eternal life must have come from only begotten Son;

what’s the other option that we did not choose?


option 2, eternal life must be something in the Son, or could it be with the Son?

the answer is something in the Son,


whosoever believeth IN HIM (something in the Son)

therefore, we did not choose this alternate option!


IN HIM = what is in him? When or where did he receive anything from the Father?

WE had established nothing was ever given to the Son!

Kesimpulan terakhir berupa sebuat pernyataan yang BARU!


MEMANG BENAR!


….bilanglah yang selama ini benar!….

Bahwa Bapa tidak berikan apa2 kepada AnakNya

karena yang diberikan kepada AnakNya sebagai titipan

untuk dunia!


INFORMASI baru tanpa rubah premise…


yang awal masih benar

dan sudah ada informasi benar yang dimasukkan

tetapi tetap benar!


BAPA TIDAK BERI APA2 KEPADA ANAK (INI BENAR)

TETAPI BAPA BERI KEPADA ANAK BUKAN UNTUK ANAK

MELAINKAN SEBAGAI TITIPAN UNTUK MANUSIA IALAH HIDUP KEKAL!



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